Session Start: Thu Apr 19 00:00:00 2012 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[07:42]<@Mulreay> hai
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[08:54]<@Mulreay> !lastspoke tux2
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[09:17]<+Craig> Hey Guys, :)
[09:23]<@Mulreay> hey Craig
[09:23]<+Craig> How's it going Mulreay?
[09:26]<@jacky> be back later
[09:26]<@jacky> Craig: Hello
[09:26]<@jacky> Mulreay: Hello
[09:26]<@Mulreay> later jacky
[09:26]<@jacky> all: bye
[09:26]<@jacky> :)
[09:26]<@Mulreay> and hello
[09:26]<@jacky> 
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[09:26]<@Mulreay> good craig thx you
[09:27]<+Craig> Doing great, what you up to?
[09:30]<@Mulreay> Currently trying to write out a 'license' thing for youtube so I can upload lets plays
[09:30]<@Mulreay> you?
[09:30]<+Craig> What is the Licence thing for?
[09:30]<+Craig> http://www.wimp.com/sharename/ <- hahah check that. :P
[09:31]<@Mulreay> Just to clarify that all the videos fall under 'fair usage' there really picky
[09:31]<+Craig> Is it a legal disclaimer for what you up load?
[09:31]<+Craig> Ahhh I see I see,
[09:32]<@Mulreay> Yeah just so the videos are monetized.. Minecraft is not a problem as there is a 'terms of use' license on the MC website that allows you to upload videos so just link to it.. and no problem but other games need a little more... wording
[09:32]<+Craig> thats kinda stupid... the internet is going to suck bad soon...
[09:32]<@Mulreay> yep
[09:34]<@Mulreay> I put up a video the other day but apparently there was not 'enough' info to claim fair use.. so re-wording everything. All a bit hit and miss
[09:34]<+Craig> Thats retarded...
[09:34]<@Mulreay> yeah
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[09:36]<@Mulreay> Will post on here what I have up to now.. one sec
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[09:36]<+FusRoDah> My YouTube channel has now been devoted to providing reviews of Video Games, Gameplay reviews, Videogame walkthroughs, computer 'how-to's' and Gameplay Commentaries. Since these are reviews, and walkthroughs with my commentary they are protected under the fair use law because they are for critical and educational purposes. What I upload is completely fair use and does not violate any of
[09:36]<+FusRoDah> YouTube's Polices or Terms of service. This means I can use this gameplay footage as long as I provide commentary that is somewhat educational or instructional without the copyright owners consent.
[09:38]<@Mulreay> That's what I have up to now
[09:38]<+Craig> Cool,
[09:38]<+Craig> Its actually not bad
[09:38]<@Mulreay> What would you change?
[09:38]<@Mulreay> And hey Nat
[09:39]<+Craig> Not really change anything, more just wording, but thats if it was not said to a company, which it is directed at the company, so the wording that I was thinking of is mute. :P
[09:40]<@Mulreay> heh, tell me anyway
[09:41]<@Mulreay> But yeah only Youtube see this when I click on the monetize button
[09:43]<+Craig> heh no, its ok, I would have just changed for example, "What I upload is completely fair use" to for example, "What I upload falls under Fair Use and does not violate the fair use policies of Youtube, or its terms of service."
[09:44]<@Mulreay> no that sounds better., thx
[09:44]<+Craig> heh
[09:45]<Nat> heh
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[09:59]<+FusRoDah> This is the one that I use for Minecraft craig.. this works
[10:00]<+FusRoDah> I created this video and I own all rights to all content in the video.
[10:00]<+FusRoDah> I own the intro as it was made by me.
[10:00]<+FusRoDah> The game shows Minecraft
[10:00]<+FusRoDah> I have permission from the games developer alongside all the big youtubers out there that do Minecraft videos.
[10:00]<+FusRoDah> Quote from the terms of use "You're free to do whatever you want with screenshots and videos of the game"
[10:00]<+FusRoDah> See link under 'what you can do' http://www.minecraft.net/terms
[10:00]<+FusRoDah> The voice is me and all sound is owned by me. I own the game and have the right to use it.
[10:00]<+FusRoDah> Also I have a note from my Mum....
[10:00]<+Craig> Hahhahaha I think the last part did it for them. :P
[10:00]<@Mulreay> heh
[10:01]<+camerongray> Hey FusRoDah & Craig
[10:01]<+Craig> Hey Cameron
[10:01]<@Mulreay> Hey camerongray and hey camerongray
[10:01]<+camerongray> lol
[10:02]<@Mulreay> See just uploaded a short video to youtube on MC and it was monetized within about 5 secs
[10:02]<+camerongray> niceQ!
[10:03]<@Mulreay> We were discussing the stupidity with monetizing videos on youtube with fair use policies
[10:03]<+Craig> http://www.wimp.com/policemanprank/
[10:04]<@Mulreay> All my MC videos now get monetized auto it would seem but anything else needs a lawyer to write a statement
[10:04]<+Craig> :P
[10:05]<@Mulreay> ahhh I HATE 'just for laughs'
[10:05]<+Craig> heh really?
[10:06]<@Mulreay> I hate the stupid music and canned laughter
[10:06]<+Craig> Ah yes, but the humor is not too bad,. :P
[10:06]<@Mulreay> Yeah, could probably watch it with the sound turned off :p
[10:07]<+Craig> Go for it. :)
[10:10]<@Mulreay> I really do need a simple computer job.. as in someone pays me to clean malware or add hardware or something
[10:11]<+Craig> I wish that onforce was in the UK, because they have work that you could do.
[10:11]<@Mulreay> I did check that out, thx for the links.. you nevcer know
[10:11]<@Mulreay> never*
[10:11]<+Craig> Yeah
[10:11]<+Craig> I am making good money on it sofar
[10:12]<+Craig> I even got BC registered, though I still don't see him as active?
[10:13]<+Craig> https://canada.onforce.com/servicepro/146384
[10:13]<@Mulreay> I may just put an add in the local paper
[10:15]<+Craig> As a computer guy?
[10:15]<@Mulreay> Yeah
[10:15]<+Craig> That would be a great idea, try the classifieds, they usually don't cost much
[10:15]<+Craig> you could also do basic hardware trouble shooting. And if needed you could ask me questions.
[10:16]<@Mulreay> Well that's the thing, not mant people would ever know the fall back I have in this channel.. and with experience comes knowledge so...
[10:16]<@Mulreay> many*
[10:17]<+Craig> I am not sure how you mean that?
[10:17]<@Mulreay> That sentence doesn't make sense
[10:18]<+Craig> How do you think I work on most of my sites, :P I know nothing before I walk on site, I just usually have the tools I need and fit them to the work requirements, :P
[10:18]<+Craig> There is on thing that all techs need, is a console port *or USB to Console* and a laptop. :P anything else can be solved with a proper screwdriver. :P
[10:19]<@Mulreay> I just meant I can always come here and troubleshoot you guys if I get stuck.. nobody would know that I'm asking from my betters.. but with the more practise comes the experience
[10:19]<+Craig> RIGHT! Thats exactly it,
[10:20]<+Craig> and most of the time, the companies that get onboard are usually willing to help you on the spot, and if you learn after your first go, any time you do the same thing, you can look like you know what needs to be done. :)
[10:20]<@Mulreay> Mmm would have to get a USB to console
[10:21]<+Craig> Well only if you have a cisco router to work on or if the customer asks for it.
[10:21]<+Craig> But most companies have them,
[10:21]<+Craig> Computer stores I mean
[10:22]<@Mulreay> I think I have everything else
[10:22]<+Craig> Awesome
[10:22]<+Craig> :)
[10:23]<@Mulreay> Tool kit, power supply tester, solder kit and a multimeter
[10:24]<+Craig> And CPU paste, and lighterfluid and paper towel to clean off the paste. :)
[10:25]<@Mulreay> Oh I have LOTS of pressured air, have lighter fluid and would need to get the paste
[10:25]<+Craig> God for Arctic Silver, its the best. :)
[10:25]<@Mulreay> Yeah I know
[10:26]<+camerongray> lighter fluid?!?!?!
[10:26]<+camerongray> I thought that would leave residue
[10:26]<@Mulreay> No
[10:26]<+Craig> nope
[10:26]<+camerongray> oh - cool
[10:26]<@Mulreay> Evaperates completely
[10:26]<+camerongray> I use rubbing alcohol
[10:27]<@Mulreay> And an old credit card
[10:27]<@Mulreay> I have 3-4 different laptop power supply cables as well
[10:28]<@Mulreay> Plus a USB stick that has LOTS of useful software on.. attached to my keys.. (Sign of someone who works on computers).
[10:29]<+Craig> hahah not true, :P
[10:29]<+Craig> LOts of companies have highered me, and I just look professional, thats it. :P
[10:30]<+Craig> Black pants, and a collared shirt,
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[10:30]<@Mulreay> Mmm, may put an advert in my local shop window as well..
[10:31]<+Craig> Good plan
[10:31]<+pottsi> tin some tittes to it aswell
[10:31]<+pottsi> makes people look
[10:31]<+pottsi> sometimes 2 times
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[10:32]<@Mulreay> lol
[10:32]<+pottsi> pin*
[10:33]<@Mulreay> I can always install XP to computers and manually change the licence keys and say.. 'Yeah that's how we roll'. I did that on the PC :p
[10:34]<@Mulreay> Never tried with Vista/7
[10:34]<@BC_Programming> See what I'd do is put a giant cutout of a squirrel outside the door
[10:34]<@BC_Programming> nothing next to it. no letters. just a giant squirrel
[10:34]<@Mulreay> HEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Ok who the feck woke up BC_Programming?
[10:35]<+Craig> Hahaha, what would that do BC?
[10:35]<@BC_Programming> then people would come in and ask "What is with the squirrel"
[10:35]<+Craig> Hey BC, have you activated your account on OnForce?
[10:35]<@BC_Programming> Yes but I'm probably not going to use it
[10:35]<@Mulreay> brb, need to feed the woof woof
[10:36]<sonicrules1234> What's OnForce?
[10:36]<+Craig> Why not try it out, then if no, say no, and I'll remove your account :P
[10:37]<@BC_Programming> I don't have a phone, printer, or fax machine
[10:37]<+Craig> Well, the phone is understandable, but you can usually use the customers line,
[10:37]<+Craig> the printer can be solved after your first contract,
[10:37]<+Craig> the fax machine is not needed.
[10:37]<+pottsi> time?
[10:38]<+Craig> Huh>?
[10:38]<sonicrules1234> I love CUPS
[10:38]<sonicrules1234> So easy to set up
[10:38]<@BC_Programming> Common Unix Printing Service?
[10:38]<sonicrules1234> Yeah
[10:39]<sonicrules1234> I really want to get CUPSd on my android
[10:39]<+Craig> That way you could do work,
[10:39]<@Mulreay> OK woof woof fed
[10:39]<+Craig> why would you need it on your android?
[10:40]<sonicrules1234> Craig: I think it would be cool, and I wouldn't need to use my laptop as a print server
[10:40]<+Craig> hjahhahaah I see...
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> mainly it's just a secondary thing for now, in case I can't get work on Freelancer
[10:47]<+Craig> So what is everyone up to these days?
[10:47]<@Mulreay> on the phone with Mum will brb
[10:47]<sonicrules1234> I've been building cm9 for kindle fire
[10:47]<sonicrules1234> cm9 = cyanogenmod 9
[10:47]<+Craig> What is CM9?
[10:47]<+Craig> ah heh
[10:48]<+camerongray> Nice!
[10:48]<+camerongray> sonicrules1234: What android phone do you have?
[10:48]<sonicrules1234> It's not a phone
[10:48]<sonicrules1234> Its a kindle fire
[10:48]<+camerongray> Ahh
[10:48]<+camerongray> Cool
[10:49]<+camerongray> I've got a touchpad running GM9
[10:49]<+camerongray> CM9*
[10:49]<sonicrules1234> Cool
[10:49]<+camerongray> Not bad for ?89!
[10:49]<sonicrules1234> :o
[10:49]<sonicrules1234> How much is that in USD?
[10:49]<+camerongray> Not sure but they sold for ?99 in the US
[10:49]<+camerongray> $99*
[10:49]<sonicrules1234> :o
[10:49]<sonicrules1234> Dang
[10:49]<+camerongray> It was when HP killed them off
[10:49]<sonicrules1234> Oh
[10:49]<+camerongray> they dropped the prices like mad
[10:49]<sonicrules1234> I see
[10:50]<+camerongray> All the electronic store's websites crashed
[10:50]<sonicrules1234> So it was originally webOS?
[10:50]<+camerongray> Yeah, dual boots now
[10:50]<sonicrules1234> Heh
[10:50]<sonicrules1234> I have mine dual boot
[10:50]<+camerongray> Cool
[10:50]<sonicrules1234> Between cm7 and cm9
[10:50]<+camerongray> One of the electronic stores here set up a queue to get into their website
[10:50]<sonicrules1234> Wow
[10:50]<+camerongray> Never seen that done before!
[10:50]<sonicrules1234> Heh, me neither
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[11:02]<@BC_Programming> the only bad thing about freelancing is that people always come to blame you when problems crop up
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[11:03]<@BC_Programming> "I added a new constructor that doesn't work, fix it" is pretty much the summary
[11:03]<@BC_Programming> Ideally, one shouldn't mess with code they don't understand, and if they do mess it up It seems stupid to blame the original author but oh well
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[11:07]<@BC_Programming> Oh @Mulreay did you see this: http://bc-programming.deviantart.com/art/Star-Trek-Voyager-Wallpaper-296749538
[11:07]<@BC_Programming> well @anybody really I guess
[11:08]<@BC_Programming> I NAILED the font I think
[11:08]<+camerongray> Nice!
[11:09]<@BC_Programming> I thought it was awesome... makes a nice change from my usual content, lol
[11:09]<+camerongray> This camcorder is a BEAST!
[11:09]<@BC_Programming> you better have it put down
[11:09]<+camerongray> Huge too!
[11:09]<+camerongray> lol
[11:10]<+camerongray> I love getting something a couple of years old for ?200 that says ?899.99 on the box!
[11:10]<+camerongray> Almost never used, not a scratch
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[11:14]<+camerongray> Tux2: Are you here?
[11:32]<@Mulreay> Back
[11:32]<@BC_Programming> missed u
[11:32]<@Mulreay> mwah
[11:32]<Serpent> hi guys
[11:33]<@Mulreay> hi
[11:33]<@BC_Programming> the one problem with freelancing and making programs is support
[11:33]<@BC_Programming> "How do I make it faster"
[11:34]<@BC_Programming> "Make it handle less data"
[11:34]<@BC_Programming> "How do I do that"
[11:34]<@BC_Programming> "delete your database"
[11:34]<@BC_Programming> "I Can't do that!"
[11:34]<Serpent> You do know the answers, don't you? :)
[11:34]<@BC_Programming> "well there you go"
[11:34]<@Mulreay> They can always spend ?$20,000 and get that support
[11:34]<@BC_Programming> their databases are getting huge and they wonder why it takes longer to read it
[11:34]<@Mulreay> heh
[11:34]<@BC_Programming> doesn't take a rocket scientist, does it?
[11:35]<@BC_Programming> "Do I need to make them diagrams? Imagine your data is a pie, and you can only eat one bite a second, if the pie is bigger, will it take longer to eat?"
[11:35]<@BC_Programming> "Are you patronizing me?"
[11:35]<@BC_Programming> "yes, yes I am"
[11:35]<@Mulreay> lol
[11:38]<@Mulreay> Bought a PS3 S-video cable, thanks BC_Programming
[11:38]<@BC_Programming> cool
[11:38]<@BC_Programming> did you see my ST Voyager Wallpaper yet? wanted an opinion of a fellow fan :P
[11:39]<@Mulreay> Will just have to wait with bated breath until it turns up
[11:39]<@Mulreay> Yeah, I did.. very cool
[11:40]<@BC_Programming> I need to get new NASA pictures to use as a base, I keep reusing the galaxy picture
[11:40]<@BC_Programming> people are going to catch on
[11:40]<@Mulreay> heh
[11:41]<@Mulreay> NASA has a clause that as long as you credit them then any visuals be it images or videos are free to use. Trust me with Space and Scince
[11:41]<@Mulreay> Science*
[11:41]<@BC_Programming> They'll have to hunt me down first MWA HAHA
[11:41]<@Mulreay> lol
[11:41]<@BC_Programming> actually I'm not even sure where I got that image from
[11:42]<@BC_Programming> it just sort of sits on my HD
[11:42]<@Mulreay> Just credit JPL and your sorted
[11:43]<+Craig> Just use Celestia, and you will be fine, their background images for stars would be more visually accurate. :p
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> wtf... google search for "high resolution space images"
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> somehow one of them is a picture of some old woman
[11:43]<@Mulreay> Like Image Credit: JPL jet propulsion laboratory
[11:43]<+Craig> What on earth do you search for frequently there BC?
[11:44]<@Mulreay> lol
[11:44]<@Mulreay> I wanna hear this as well
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> ?
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> do an image search yourself, some old broad shows up randomly about halfway down the page
[11:45]<@BC_Programming> space picture, space picture, some planet, old smiley lady, space picture...
[11:45]<+Craig> of the some odd 300 photo's that I see, there is only one woman in the pictures, and she has the lable High-Resolution for a description.
[11:45]<@Mulreay> Nope no ladys
[11:45]<Serpent> o m g . . . you haven't tried "Black hole images".... don't you ever do it
[11:46]<@Mulreay> We won't
[11:46]<+Craig> You mean this one? http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1064&bih=859&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsza&tbnid=bwON8Yh1fmAV5M:&imgrefurl=http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/about/bios/harrington_bio.html&docid=HA32BFHzS4DxeM&imgurl=http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/images/content/332241main_Bios_Harrington_hi-res.jpg&w=1200&h=1500&ei=FE-QT6yzLOOQiQKH-qGNAw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=192&sig=1067494
[11:46]<+Craig> 25340624265467&page=4&tbnh=153&tbnw=122&start=63&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:20,s:63,i:301&tx=46&ty=94
[11:46]<+Craig> wow, google links suck...
[11:46]<@BC_Programming> lol
[11:46]<@Mulreay> lol
[11:46]<@BC_Programming> but yeah that's the one
[11:46]<+Craig> Tammy L. Harrington is Acting Associate Director of the Space Flight Systems Directorate at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) Glenn Research Center in Cleveland, Ohio.
[11:47]<+Craig> So, technically Google is correct, its a high resolution photo of a space associated picture.
[11:48]<@Mulreay> Touche
[11:49]<+Craig> Its not like you googled High Resolution images of stars in space. :p
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> where else would I find stars
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> heh
[11:50]<@Mulreay> Broadway?
[11:50]<+Craig> in our solar system?
[11:50]<+Craig> HAHAHAHA touche!
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> not stars though... there is only one in the solar system
[11:51]<+Craig> Well if you agree with Mulreay, then its accurate... :P
[11:52]<@Mulreay> Waiting with bated breath as it were
[11:52]<@BC_Programming> google search BC Programming wallpapers and brace yourself
[11:54]<@BC_Programming> lol... cover of a book "How to program the internet"
[11:54]<@Mulreay> OK 1-0 BC_Programming
[11:54]<@Mulreay> But I can do one better
[11:55]<+Craig> http://bit.ly/HL1Om3
[11:55]<@BC_Programming> "Graham and the bear" in image search?
[11:55]<+Craig> Why is that in your Backgrounds BC?
[11:55]<@BC_Programming> you mean why do they show up when you search that?
[11:56]<@BC_Programming> because I made most of them. some of them seem to be from other sites but there are some that I made way down the page, they just get more infrequent
[11:57]<@BC_Programming> I really really hate that twist wallpaper, worse then freaking Urkel
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[11:58]<+camerongray> Hey Calum
[11:58]<@Calum> hey cameron
[11:58]<@BC_Programming> I have a feeling that was automatic, lol
[11:58]<@Mulreay> Just search 'Graham Mulreay' if you want to search truly one person.. Nobody else in the world has the surname Mulreay apart from my family and nobody else is called Graham. Should be Facebook and Twitter and the such
[11:58]<@Calum> I don't know whether to feel flattered or offended...
[11:58]<@Mulreay> hey Calum
[11:58]<@Calum> hey Mulreay
[11:59]<+camerongray> lol - It's manual!
[11:59]<+camerongray> Dual monitor FTW!
[11:59]<@Mulreay> We were discussing google returns
[11:59]<+camerongray> I was eatng
[11:59]<+camerongray> eating*
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> lol... I searched for "Graham Mulreay" Bears and the irc log is one of the first links
[11:59]<@Mulreay> lol
[11:59]<@Calum> Google returns can be interesting, googling me brings up some random info
[12:00]<Serpent> thanks, Cap...
[12:00]<Serpent> :)
[12:00]<@Calum> one of the top results that's actually me is someone on Twitter praising my service whilst I was at OcUK
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> haha cool
[12:00]<+camerongray> sweet!
[12:00]<@Mulreay> I'm prity sure I'm the only person on this planet called Graham Mulreay... I win
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> I haven't ego-googled in a while time to try
[12:00]<@Calum> oh and the second result that's me, is a group I belong to on FB called SKN
[12:01]<@BC_Programming> well I mean with my actual name not my screen name
[12:01]<@Calum> the others are for people with the same name as me, and roughly the same age actually, but definitely not me
[12:01]<Serpent> Mulreay: you'd never guess my name... heheh
[12:01]<@Mulreay> Yours come up with lots of people BC_Programming
[12:01]<@Mulreay> I did yours :p
[12:01]<@BC_Programming> no my <FULL> name middle included :P
[12:01]<@BC_Programming> I only get 5 hits myself
[12:01]<@Mulreay> Serpent: Then I won't try
[12:01]<@Calum> oh, the only other one for me is my old Xfire profile...jeez, haven't logged into that for years *deletes it*
[12:01]<@BC_Programming> well it says 5 hits but it only shows one
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> the one hit goes to computerhope
[12:02]<@Mulreay> Were friends... PM me it?
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> middle name? James
[12:03]<@Mulreay> haha It comes up with James Brown
[12:04]<Serpent> not sure if ChanbotV dislikes cyrillics :)
[12:04]<@Mulreay> haha your going to love this
[12:04]<Serpent> (HopeBot sure does...)
[12:04]<@Mulreay> BC_Programming
[12:04]<@Mulreay> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?topic=76649.15
[12:04]<@BC_Programming> yeah that's the one I got too
[12:04]<@Mulreay> That was my first response
[12:05]<@Mulreay> Serpent I guess that name would be kinda unique
[12:06]<@Mulreay> In English that is
[12:06]<Serpent> you won't believe it... that is exactly my guess as well ;)
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> oooh there are lots of articles I could take credit for
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> they have my name on them amirite?
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> http://www.helium.com/items/488163-the-importance-of-voting
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> that was <totally> me
[12:07] * @BC_Programming shifts eyes back and forth
[12:07]<Serpent> what's 'amirite'?
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> am I right
[12:08]<@Mulreay> Sergey Zakharchenko
[12:08]<@Mulreay> How's that?
[12:08]<@Mulreay> For Serpent
[12:08]<Serpent> good enough :)
[12:08]<@Mulreay> heh
[12:08]<Serpent> you cheated... admit it ;)
[12:08]<@Mulreay> Cheated how?
[12:09]<Serpent> no idea...
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> I don't think I like this political columnist soiling my good name
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[12:09]<@BC_Programming> he's obviously just putting my name on his stuff because he knows how awesome I am
[12:09] * Serpent is headed home
[12:09]<Serpent> cya later
[12:09]<@Mulreay> later bud
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[12:10]<@BC_Programming> apparently "I" am on myspace
[12:10]<@Calum> same
[12:11]<@BC_Programming> if he's younger I say he stole my name
[12:11]<@BC_Programming> if he's older than I call a temporal paradox
[12:11]<@Calum> heh
[12:11]<@BC_Programming> wow myspace is awful
[12:12]<@BC_Programming> apparently he's 63... temporal paradox it is
[12:12]<@Calum> hey I have a question, BC you might know this as you tend to know random useful bits of info
[12:12]<@Calum> is there a way to calculate how much VRAM is needed for a certain resolution?
[12:12]<@BC_Programming> yes
[12:13]<@BC_Programming> you mean just like a 2-D mode though, right?
[12:13]<@Calum> yeah, just desktop
[12:13]<@BC_Programming> X*Y*bitdepth/8
[12:13]<@Calum> ah I see
[12:13]<@Calum> interesting, thanks
[12:14]<@Calum> I assume things like Aero would add to that slightly?
[12:14]<@BC_Programming> well... Aero uses 3-D, so that would be completely different
[12:14]<@BC_Programming> 3-D requires at least twice that calculation for a backbuffer, plus space for textures
[12:14]<@Calum> oh, of course it does
[12:14]<@Calum> hm well that's odd then
[12:15]<@BC_Programming> Aero also requires certain GPU capabilities iirc
[12:15]<@Calum> yeah, I know that, it needs a WDM driver and I think a DX9c or higher card
[12:16]<@Calum> ohh, never mind, I figured out why my memory usage wasn't adding up properly using that formula, it's cool
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> explain :P
[12:17]<@Calum> In GPU-Z, there's a stat for memory usage (dedicated) and one for (dynamic) you have to add them together
[12:17]<@Calum> I didn't know if the (dynamic) stat meant anything or not
[12:17]<@Calum> but yeah, add them together and I'm at 339MB which is reasonable, using just (dedicated) it was on 223MB which didn't add up
[12:18]<@Mulreay> It's like watching 'Rainman vs Beautiful mind' the triple speed version.
[12:18]<@Calum> haha, I know I'm probably not making much sense because I'm just typing what I've realised, so it's like you're seeing half a conversation with myself
[12:19]<@BC_Programming> yeah you lost me as well, though to be fair I mostly just pretend to know what I'm talking about and hope nobody calls me on it
[12:19]<@BC_Programming> has worked for me so far
[12:19]<@Calum> haha
[12:19]<@Calum> I can explain properly if you're actually interested lol
[12:19]<@Mulreay> I was just saying your both very intelligent and your bouncing off each other
[12:20]<@Calum> heh
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> oh memory <usage>... wasn't paying attention, thought that was a total
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> was going to say I never heard of cards with such weird amounts of memory
[12:20]<@Calum> hehe
[12:21]<@Calum> no, that's my current usage, I thought I would just get a 512MB card, but looking at the usage just on desktop I'm glad I bought the 1GB
[12:21]<@BC_Programming> things used to be simpler, just had to worry about the number of pixels and all that
[12:21]<@Calum> to be fair they were the same price
[12:21]<@Mulreay> I can explain why most of the universe is free space if anyone needs to know... just text me or call 0800-reallynotbotherd
[12:21]<@Calum> haha
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> of course now images programs use get plonked in video memory too with Aero enabled, which tends to speed things up a bit
[12:23]<@Calum> ah right
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> I think that mem usage "goes away" when you run a game though, so the game get's to use that VRAM
[12:24]<@Calum> yeah, Aero normally shuts down, or it can do if the game needs the VRAM
[12:24]<@Calum> not that I'll be doing much gaming on this card
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> heh I'm "still" using the 9800GT I originally put in the build :P
[12:24]<@Calum> I have a 6450...it's slower than yours
[12:25]<@BC_Programming> I got a 9800GTX+ but that was a gift for my brother since his PC was using on-board graphics
[12:26]<@BC_Programming> I didn't think it would mean as much if I was like "OK I bought <myself> a new card, here have my old one"
[12:26]<@Calum> eh, it's not that much faster than a 9800GT anyway
[12:26]<@Calum> the GTX+, that is
[12:26]<@BC_Programming> I think it had a GB... can't remember now
[12:26]<@Calum> most of them did, some were 512MB but they didn't sell too well
[12:26]<@Calum> it only has like 16 stream processors more than the GT, though, and it was clocked a bit higher
[12:26]<@BC_Programming> ahh... that was probably the main thing that tempted me, heh
[12:27]<@BC_Programming> the extra VRAM, that is
[12:27]<@Calum> people get too hung up on VRAM, especially on lower-end or older cards
[12:27]<@BC_Programming> but I figured I hadn't really had trouble with mine so there was no point anyway
[12:27]<@Calum> yeah
[12:27]<@BC_Programming> well except the overheating, but I fixed that by repasting it
[12:27]<@Calum> cool
[12:28]<@Calum> I need another fan in this box, this passively cooled card is unsurprisingly quite warm
[12:28]<@Calum> I probably shouldn't be running it at 100% load 24/7 and trying to overclock it especially when it was ?30, but hey
[12:29]<@BC_Programming> my Pentium 4 machine's CPU is passively cooled... cheap manufacturer's :/
[12:29]<@Calum> they make me nervous, passive P4s...not a good idea
[12:29]<@Calum> so many of them around though
[12:30]<@BC_Programming> well it did work, and it was a dell so there was no way to overclock anyway
[12:30]<@BC_Programming> though I don't tend to do that :P
[12:30]<@Calum> heh
[12:30]<@Calum> yeah they work, I'm just surprised there are so many still working, I see a lot of them
[12:30]<@BC_Programming> I almost destroyed my quad core CPU about a month ago
[12:30]<@Calum> really?
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> well probably not, but there was a bit of tension for a bit
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> I was uninstalling or installing a card, can't remember, wireless card probably
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> noticed the heatsink was caked in dust, so I air dusted it
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> when I started it it gave an ominous beeping noise
[12:32]<@Calum> heatsink got dislodged?
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> somehow the CPU fan wasn't spinning... managed to start it "manually" at which point I was presented with a faceful of dust
[12:32]<@Calum> haha
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> then again my really old machine, K6-2 had a thermal pad that had literally turned to dust
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> which explains why it could get to >100 degrees centigrade
[12:33]<@Calum> I've had plenty of i7s running at 100C for hours at full load
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> the k6-2's maximum temp is rated at like 60 degrees or something
[12:34]<@Calum> oh yeah
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> it was ridiculous because it was only 350Mhz... didn't figure out why until I replaced it for no reason with a 450Mhz CPU I got off ebay for a dollar
[12:34]<@Calum> heh
[12:34]<@Mulreay> I once had a Commodore 64 never run, never mind walk
[12:43]<@Calum> alright, I'm off for now, got to try and flog this graphics card on the bat, it needs to go
[12:43]<@Calum> catch you later
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[12:43]<@BC_Programming> later
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> balls too slow
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[13:16]<@Mulreay> I want tp know what happened to Todd
[13:16]<@Mulreay> to*
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> lol
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> todd
[13:20]<Serpent> nice joke... wish I could get it... heh
[13:22]<@Mulreay> It's a Stargate ref.. no joke against you
[13:23]<Serpent> I didn't think about 'against me'
[13:24]<Serpent> StarGate? I have managed to forget it...
[13:24]<@BC_Programming> Stargate Atlantis specifically
[13:24]<Serpent> oh, the series... didn't watch it at all. the movie - that's much better
[13:24]<@BC_Programming> I thought the movie was terrible
[13:25]<@Mulreay> I did meh at the movie but was not aweful
[13:25]<Serpent> BC_Programming, why? 'cause it's ancient?
[13:25]<Serpent> :)
[13:27]<@Mulreay> I doubt that
[13:27]<Serpent> at least, it has a beginning - and has an ending. umm.. had had... until there was the series created...
[13:28]<@Mulreay> If your trying to weigh the film over the series then the series wins
[13:28]<@Mulreay> But I did enjoy the film when it came out
[13:28]<Serpent> that's a rare occation...
[13:29]<Serpent> imho, of course :)
[13:29]<@Mulreay> of course
[13:29]<Serpent> lol
[13:29]<Serpent> why thank you ;)
[13:29]<@BC_Programming> the series got a little star trekky near the end
[13:30]<@BC_Programming> if that makes sense
[13:30]<@Mulreay> Yeah, I cand of lost interest when 'cam' got involved
[13:30]<@Mulreay> kind*
[13:30]<Serpent> it does... after all, that's your language :)
[13:31]<@Mulreay> Language?
[13:31]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: mine was more near the end
[13:31]<@Mulreay> We speak English
[13:31]<@BC_Programming> it was basically the same as star trek. "fly in a space ship, do stuff, fight enemies, etc
[13:31] * Serpent scratches his chin
[13:31]<@Mulreay> BC_Programming: the arc of truth stuff?
[13:31]<@BC_Programming> no the end of the SG-1 series
[13:32]<@BC_Programming> it went for 10 seasons though so I guess maybe it just overextended itself somewhat
[13:32]<@Mulreay> Yeah, it did get very 'in space'
[13:32]<@Mulreay> Then again there are so many times Samantha can save the world
[13:33]<@Mulreay> 200 is still my favourite episode... kinda said it all
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> MAKE IT SPIN
[13:34]<@Mulreay> lol, I'm in charge and I want it to spin
[13:34]<@Mulreay> So, much cooler when it spins
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> heh
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> SG-1/Movie spinny middle part
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> Atlantis- NO SPINNY PART
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> Universe: entire fecking thing spins
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> they were compensating
[13:35]<@Mulreay> lol
[13:35]<@Mulreay> And Universe had 'steam'
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> yeah that was weird
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> nobody wonders "wtf does the steam do"
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> "that's to cool it down when it spins"
[13:36]<@Mulreay> heh
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> "why does it spin?"
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> "looks kewl"
[13:37]<@Mulreay> My favourite was 'Daniel writting on the screens' I almost pee'd laughing
[13:37]<@Mulreay> writing*
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> actually when I think about it I'm not even sure if I've seen the stargate movie
[13:38]<@Mulreay> in 200
[13:38]<@Mulreay> that was
[13:38]<@Mulreay> As the puppet
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> yeah I did gather :P
[13:39]<@Mulreay> Never seen the movie?
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> I can't remember
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> I think so but I'm not sure
[13:40]<@Mulreay> Feck of.. and I thought we were friends... you can talk to me by calling my PA
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[13:41]<@Mulreay> You never watched the film? Next you will tell me you never watched 'wrath of khan'
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> what's that?
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> lol jk
[13:41]<@Mulreay> lol
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> no wait I should have said "I never was big on mongolian history"
[13:42]<@Mulreay> I'm into that
[13:43]<@Mulreay> I had an idea by the way BC_Programming
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> if I did see the movie it was a long time ago, that happens sometimes
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> I'll watch a movie I don't think I've seen before and halfway through I'll be like "hey wait a second I've seen this before"
[13:45]<@Mulreay> If this new video makes monetization I will run through cyber space with my pants down
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> heh
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> what was your idea
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> PS I finished that builderblock idea thing
[13:47]<@BC_Programming> to download or not to download the latest MC prerelease
[13:54]<@Mulreay> heh
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> hmm will probably wait until 1.3
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> doesn't look like a super awesome-o must have coolness update
[13:56]<@BC_Programming> also from the sounds of it you need an internet connection to play now, it won't let you play offline >:(
[13:57]<@Mulreay> I could buy you a PS3
[13:57]<@BC_Programming> lol that was random
[13:58]<@Mulreay> Tell you what, I will buy you a PS3 at the end of May if I have the money
[13:58]<@BC_Programming> no don't be silly
[13:58]<@Mulreay> Which I probably will have
[13:59]<@Mulreay> Was not asking
[13:59]<@BC_Programming> Not a fan of console games, tbh, actually
[13:59]<@BC_Programming> well new ones, I mean
[13:59]<@BC_Programming> :/
[14:00]<@BC_Programming> gmod is sort of ironic for me now
[14:01]<@BC_Programming> I had a pirated version for the longest time, then I bought it, and because I'm "legit" I can't play it since my desktop doesn't have a connection, lol
[14:01]<@Mulreay> It's not about how you like consoles... I like my PS3 and it's boring with no friends.. I buy you one then missery ensues with me asking you to play games with me
[14:02]<@BC_Programming> which will be difficult until I work out proper internet
[14:02]<@BC_Programming> I'll do that someday, I swear
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[14:03]<@Mulreay> I say 'no' friends but I do have none from here
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[14:13]<@BC_Programming> hmmm this is bad
[14:13]<@BC_Programming> just broke my laptop keyboard methinks
[14:13]<+camerongray> Ouch!
[14:14]<+camerongray> How did that happen?
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> my finger got stuck under the j key and ripped it off
[14:14]<+camerongray> ahh
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> I might be able to fix it
[14:15]<+camerongray> Is the little plastic lever bit okay?
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> I think so
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> ok false alarm got it back on I think.. jjjjj
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> yep works
[14:17]<+camerongray> Cool
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> disaster averted
[14:30]<@Mulreay> This aude/video will take so long to sync I will probably start praying to a god
[14:31]<@Mulreay> audio
[14:31]<@BC_Programming> yeah syncing is a pain
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> I really have my work cut out for me... 30 new wallpapers... how will I do them all and make them stylistically unique is going to be tricky
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> I don't want to be one of those people that makes them by just replacing names and vectors in some template
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> I should make a blog page that lists them all too
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[14:57]<@Mulreay> I hate making HD videos
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> render time or upload time?
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> or both, heh
[14:58]<@Mulreay> render, uptime is fast
[15:07]<@Mulreay> If I buy you a PS3v in May/June would you play on it BC_Programming?
[15:08]<@BC_Programming> probably not very often tbh
[15:08]<@BC_Programming> also don't know if I'll have internet by then
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[15:50]<@Mulreay> wb
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[15:59]<@BC_Programming> oh what fun, everytime a car goes by I get disconnected
[16:03]<@Mulreay> Your lucky, every time someone talks I'm wrong
[16:03]<@BC_Programming> incorrect!
[16:03]<@BC_Programming> heh
[16:03]<@BC_Programming> couldn't help it :P
[16:03]<@Mulreay> lol
[16:03]<@Mulreay> nice
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[16:16]<@BC_Programming> lol... make Community Server (forum software) is awful
[16:17]<@BC_Programming> I post in a thread and I get a notification
[16:17]<@BC_Programming> that I posted in the thread
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[16:23]<@BC_Programming> I have a sudden craving for Ham
[16:37]<Nat> you're canadian, right?
[16:37]<@BC_Programming> yes
[16:38]<Nat> don't you just call it bacon then?
[16:38]<@BC_Programming> and no it's not different from ham elsewhere
[16:38]<@BC_Programming> no
[16:38]<Nat> or is that just the Quebecians
[16:38]<@BC_Programming> ahh that would explain it
[16:38]<@BC_Programming> easterners are a bit... odd
[16:38]<@BC_Programming> they say stuff like "Side by each" instead of "Side by side"
[16:38]<Nat> at least i'm not alone in this
[16:38]<@BC_Programming> trust me we give them the same weird looks everybody else does
[16:50]<@Mulreay> You can never win
[16:51]<@BC_Programming> never say never, unless you mean never, in which case never mind
[17:23]<@Mulreay> Night all
[17:23]<@BC_Programming> night
[17:23]<@Mulreay> mwahh
[17:23]<@BC_Programming> lol
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[17:29]<@Mulreay> I've lost the feeling in my leg... I'm not telling you which one just in case you want to shoot one
[17:29]<@BC_Programming> hehe
[17:30]<@Mulreay> You will lik this BC_Programming
[17:30]<@BC_Programming> it's weird when you sleep on your arm or whatever and it suddenly goes immobile
[17:31]<@Mulreay> I'm awake because I miss you
[17:31]<@BC_Programming> ok
[17:31]<@Mulreay> Oh sorry 'hate'.. my bad
[17:32]<@BC_Programming> oh ok
[17:32]<@BC_Programming> I hate you too man
[17:33]<@Mulreay> I hate you so much I actually bet people to kill me
[17:33]<@BC_Programming> I made a rabbit into slippers once
[17:33]<@Mulreay> lol
[17:36]<@BC_Programming> I can almost recite the entire first two episodes of MLP
[17:39]<@BC_Programming> heheh... all the dual wallpapers with pinkie, the other character will have an expression like "dammit I'm stuck with Pinkie"
[17:40]<@Mulreay> I need another computer
[17:41]<@Mulreay> Render takes too long
[17:43]<@Mulreay> But I'm going PS3 thingy.. oh yeah.. you better see me do that stuff with that pointy at you thing ma gig
[17:44]<@BC_Programming> uh, pointy what
[17:44]<@Mulreay> Don't point at what I can't do that
[18:25]<@Mulreay> Shitts n giggles
[18:56]<@BC_Programming> sounds like a symptom
[18:56]<@BC_Programming> I really should do that SMW playthrough but you know all the planning I go through to make a video
[18:56]<@BC_Programming> well none actually
[19:00]<@BC_Programming> and my unfinished videos. I really should finish them
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[19:28]<@BC_Programming> lol... find a image on DeviantArt "oh I could use that"
[19:28]<@BC_Programming> find out I made it
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